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That_guy's avatar

Thanks for this important work. +1 to highlight the work of Mana Wāhine Kōrero:

https://twitter.com/MKorero

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Garwhoungle's avatar

More data and information on NZ and puberty blockers available in this article: https://genderclinicnews.substack.com/p/on-the-defensive

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Annette Pacey's avatar

Thank you so much for this excellent summary. I'm I kiwi who's lived abroad for decades and I've noticed that NZ seems very captured by gender ideology but it's hard to figure out exactly which laws and policies are affected when I'm so out of touch and the media don't seem to cover it. This really helps. Would love to hear more about what the practical implications of self-ID will be as that comes into force (eg prisons etc). Thanks again for your valuable work.

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Garwhoungle's avatar

Thanks so much Annette. Yeah, it will be interesting with sex-self ID. Lots of institutions have jumped the gun and behaving like sex self id is already true. Will it give legal weight to those policies? Will it cause another flurry of policies that make women invisible? Will it be used to further the extreme ideology? Or is it as promised just a little administrative tweak that makes life easier for a vulnerable group? What do people think?

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Lucy Leader's avatar

How to brainwash people into believing stuff that isn't true: https://lucyleader.substack.com/p/how-to-establish-a-new-reality-aka

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cara's avatar

arrrghhhh 😭😭😭

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Felicity Stacey-Clark's avatar

This encapsulates it. Thank you

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Hilary Oxley's avatar

Plus our Human Rights Commission. At the Pride Fair in Wellington recently they specified that they were prioritising Trans Rights even though we were discussing the right for lesbians to meet exclusively with lesbians because of the feeling of safety when sharing with those like-minded women because of our like-experienced real lives. HRC has changed the definition of a woman, without consulting women.

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Garwhoungle's avatar

Outrageous. The group with responsibilities around human rights Yes my nine are just illustrations of what's happening I'd love people to list other examples.

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Robin's avatar

NZ as usual was late to the party, which worked well when it came to the introduction of this harmful ideology, but means it will be late to leave as well. Sigh, so many more children will be left permanently mutilated and sterilized. Rainbows won't help them have normal adult sex lives, nor will they give them back their lost optimal health.

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Garwhoungle's avatar

Very true. In some ways it feels like NZ's adoption of neoliberalism. We are large enough to get all excited by international theories but then sometimes too small to have the restraints or solid critique that needs to temper it. We end up with policies driven by puritanical fervour and ill-suited to local conditions or real life.

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Garwhoungle's avatar

Interesting. I am not sure about the US. On the one hand Biden is meeting with Dylan Mulvaney as if he's a genuine, serious representation of girlhood (or even of the trans community) and seems totally out of his depth calling not transitioning really young kids "torture". I think that was the word. On the other, a few states are pulling back on surgeries for minors, thanks in part to the efforts of detransitioners talking about their regret. It's such a different political climate and there's so much hysteria that I don't know if push back is also against abortion and gay rights. Worryingly it may well be.

It feels so important in NZ that any walk back from the extremity of trans dogma is not led by anti-gay, anti-women types but by those committed to egalitarianism and human rights for all. That it's not a retreat into rigid roles for men and women.

Perhaps some European countries can provide more hopeful case studies?

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